1 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:05,749 [Music] 2 00:00:30,910 --> 00:00:30,310 hi everyone and welcome to vinnie and 3 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:30,920 friends 4 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:33,360 [Laughter] 5 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:35,920 you are here with the uap media folks 6 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:37,760 and as we have gone live i think we've 7 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:40,399 lost about 12 people i'm guessing all of 8 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:42,079 you thought louie elizondo was going to 9 00:00:46,549 --> 00:00:44,559 be here with us he's not he's upstairs 10 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:46,559 at the moment he's not he's not um but 11 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:48,160 uh we do have the wonderful max 12 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:55,750 can you hear us 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,810 he's muted he's not sam 14 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,630 [Music] 15 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:04,159 i mean that's pretty much all we had 16 00:01:06,950 --> 00:01:05,680 planned so from this point is pretty 17 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:06,960 much improv 18 00:01:10,469 --> 00:01:08,960 uh so hi to everyone in the chat people 19 00:01:13,109 --> 00:01:10,479 who have 20 00:01:14,789 --> 00:01:13,119 set things up here uh on a table and 21 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:14,799 dan's fixed the lighting for us which is 22 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:17,040 why it looks so bad so thank you 23 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:19,280 and the five of us are crammed in an 24 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,960 incredibly small space but uh 25 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:24,720 yeah this is the one room dave went 26 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:26,799 about cheap on the accommodation so 27 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:28,479 thanks but yes and we're all together 28 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:31,200 it's nice to meet up finally as well um 29 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:32,720 vinnie 30 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:38,710 sucks we've all been out doing stuff 31 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:41,680 today yeah so why don't we each tell i 32 00:01:46,469 --> 00:01:43,680 guess max and everybody else what we've 33 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:46,479 been doing i uh we we kind of split up 34 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:48,799 today as a team which apparently you 35 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:49,920 should never do according to horror 36 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:51,840 movies but we did it anyway 37 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:55,119 or scooby-doo um but graham vinnie and 38 00:01:59,830 --> 00:01:56,719 dave went somewhere annie and i didn't 39 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:59,840 today so go ahead guys tell us yeah so 40 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,960 you might have seen on twitter that we 41 00:02:05,030 --> 00:02:02,640 went to the national archives and queue 42 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:05,040 in london because we all had our little 43 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:07,119 remits we had various files that we want 44 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:09,360 to go and check um i was looking at the 45 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:12,000 calvin incident august 1990 so looking 46 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:15,040 into raf files uh vinnie and 47 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:16,800 dave what were you looking at i was 48 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:19,760 looking into ufo policy through the 90s 49 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:22,319 and early 2000s and how it how the 50 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:24,239 reporting systems were done in the 51 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:27,200 military and how it was very important 52 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,440 through the mod um 53 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:31,519 so yeah it was interesting 54 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:34,480 yeah and i just went in to um 55 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:37,280 actually just start a fire 56 00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:39,360 on dan's instructions but no i i was 57 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:41,200 looking at um 58 00:02:45,110 --> 00:02:42,080 the 59 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:45,120 raf bases around uh some brides bay in 60 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,440 pembrokeshire wales during the late 61 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:49,440 1970s just to find out if i could get 62 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:51,599 any more information about the whole 63 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:53,120 welsh triangle and the broadhaven 64 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:54,480 incidents 65 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:57,040 and there were some interesting 66 00:03:02,309 --> 00:02:59,840 kind of communications between the mod 67 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:02,319 into departments regarding letters that 68 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:04,879 they were getting regarding the welsh 69 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:07,120 triangle incidents in 77 and also the 70 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:09,920 incidents over swansea in 1983 71 00:03:14,830 --> 00:03:11,360 and there was there was the thing about 72 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:17,990 found yeah 73 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:20,000 was a body that was washed up in one of 74 00:03:28,149 --> 00:03:22,400 the bays but that was due to a rogue 75 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:31,110 no the body washed up on the missile 76 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:32,400 ranges 77 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:34,480 oh okay 78 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:36,799 he was a swimmer that unfortunately got 79 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:38,720 into trouble so now we'll see tomorrow 80 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:41,599 we'll see some that comes down 81 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,830 i'm sorry 82 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:53,360 you good that's okay 83 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:55,840 yeah i'm great i'm enjoying your uh your 84 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:58,080 your stories about your day 85 00:04:01,270 --> 00:03:59,599 um 86 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:01,280 so what have you been doing today max 87 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:03,840 guys have you have you been uh to the 88 00:04:07,509 --> 00:04:05,680 pub uh just before or where are you are 89 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,519 you in a hotel room or something never 90 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:08,879 in a house 91 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,080 one of the house 92 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:16,720 renting websites yeah yeah it's it's the 93 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:18,000 kind of house people go to and they 94 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:22,790 yeah 95 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:24,960 we're cheapskates 96 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,440 yeah so are you guys traveling 97 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:29,120 so are you guys excited for uh meeting 98 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:30,639 lou 99 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:31,759 are we 100 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:34,320 just a little bit no 101 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:39,110 i mean i i think 102 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,199 you know the the pre-date butterflies 103 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:43,520 are just natural but louie's just as 104 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:45,910 nervous as us so we gotta remember that 105 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:49,600 [Laughter] 106 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:52,320 i don't think so but um 107 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:53,280 i think 108 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:55,520 it probably has been 109 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:57,199 and we've seen a lot of people tweet 110 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:58,960 into on twitter asking about it and 111 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,880 everything so 112 00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:02,639 i mean i guess we should try and set the 113 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:05,039 record straight for everyone 114 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:05,759 yeah 115 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:07,360 do you wanna no 116 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:09,199 i don't really know the internet i mean 117 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:18,469 no so we we were very graciously uh 118 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:21,440 invited to dinner uh with lou 119 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,680 and yeah we've taken him up on the alpha 120 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:25,680 but we we've kind of used it as a three 121 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:27,759 days to to get together for the first 122 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,280 time um 123 00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:31,360 and and really meet each other so that 124 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,310 um 125 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:38,479 later on we are 126 00:05:43,029 --> 00:05:40,479 also in this complete serendipity but 127 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:43,039 but ryan sprague is over 128 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:46,639 um having a trip and he he had some news 129 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:47,600 uh 130 00:05:52,180 --> 00:05:49,039 is he in the uk 131 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:52,190 yeah yeah and he's right now 132 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:53,440 [Music] 133 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,039 so we're gonna go see him in a little 134 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:57,120 bit which should be wow 135 00:06:01,830 --> 00:05:59,039 that's cool it just happened everything 136 00:06:03,590 --> 00:06:01,840 fell into place for over a few days and 137 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,600 i can see how it looked like everyone 138 00:06:07,189 --> 00:06:05,600 was converging for the same thing but it 139 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:07,199 truly wasn't 140 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,960 and there was no big secret or 141 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,800 conspiracy or anything and we've just 142 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,800 managed to tie it all in over three days 143 00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:14,560 we got to do some really good research 144 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:15,759 today 145 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:17,600 that in itself would have been great but 146 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:19,360 the fact that we able to see lou another 147 00:06:23,749 --> 00:06:22,319 day and ryan as well was great you know 148 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:23,759 i think people were thinking that we had 149 00:06:27,749 --> 00:06:26,240 some big event that we were setting up 150 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:27,759 and that were you know we weren't 151 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:29,199 inviting people and people were getting 152 00:06:32,710 --> 00:06:30,800 annoyed about that there was nothing of 153 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:32,720 the thought you know if it had been 154 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:33,919 something like that people would have 155 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:35,759 known about it we were told people we 156 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:37,280 would have invited people but this is 157 00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:39,039 actually us being invited to something 158 00:06:43,670 --> 00:06:41,680 else so it's not even our gift to let 159 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,680 other people come because it's not our 160 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,280 party if you like you know where the 161 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:48,240 people have to go so you know it's quite 162 00:06:51,909 --> 00:06:49,360 an honor 163 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:51,919 yeah exactly yeah so i'm afraid you know 164 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:53,520 it it's not up to us 165 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:54,639 but i'm sure 166 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:56,880 in the future oh yeah you know and andy 167 00:07:04,790 --> 00:06:59,680 and i went uh i won't say where but we 168 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:06,150 we were thinking of 169 00:07:10,469 --> 00:07:07,840 possibly some 170 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:10,479 event next year but we will see and we 171 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:12,080 would scope it out some venues today as 172 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:14,880 well so that was awesome awesome and you 173 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,400 talked about last night as well it's 174 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:18,319 like kind of because we're all in the 175 00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:20,160 same room together for the first time 176 00:07:24,090 --> 00:07:22,319 ever you know we've realized that 177 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:24,100 not everyone's pixelated 178 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:26,800 [Laughter] 179 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:28,160 we're on mute 180 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:30,400 yeah right yeah we've been we've been 181 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:33,039 talking and we've been making plans and 182 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:35,120 going forward 2022 should be a pretty 183 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:37,280 good year for everybody involved in this 184 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,400 subject 185 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:39,919 we have an important question from 186 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,520 someone is it megan i am what 187 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:45,599 if each one of us was a spice girl who 188 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,309 scary 189 00:07:52,319 --> 00:07:55,189 yeah i love that one 190 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:57,830 that's a good question oh my god i'll go 191 00:08:04,150 --> 00:07:59,919 sporty because i was going to use i was 192 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:06,309 i was going to say baby 193 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:18,230 than me i think 194 00:08:23,270 --> 00:08:20,390 so besides lou is there anyone else you 195 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:23,280 guys are going to meet um or is that the 196 00:08:26,950 --> 00:08:24,240 queen 197 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:26,960 chris chris melon would be good but he's 198 00:08:31,990 --> 00:08:30,160 not available um 199 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:32,000 sorry i'm sorry uh 200 00:08:36,389 --> 00:08:34,080 nah i don't think so like ryan's a nice 201 00:08:38,870 --> 00:08:36,399 can i have bonus tonight and um low 202 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:38,880 tomorrow and then most of us have got 203 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:41,919 trains to get back tomorrow night so uh 204 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:43,599 my wife let me out for the night which 205 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:46,800 was nice um so i need to get back home 206 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,680 uh but nah no one else yeah we can make 207 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:51,360 something up like graham said honestly 208 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:53,040 like the whole thing about is it some 209 00:08:57,190 --> 00:08:55,040 super big secret thing like today was 210 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:57,200 largely spent going to several different 211 00:09:00,310 --> 00:08:59,040 starbucks shops 212 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:00,320 and um 213 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:01,760 finding each other after the guys had 214 00:09:05,590 --> 00:09:03,839 been at the archives and everything else 215 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:05,600 so and me trying to convince andy to get 216 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:23,190 is there going to be a live stream 217 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,120 no it'll just be it'll just be a private 218 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:27,360 dinner basically well i'll just chat 219 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:29,360 over dinner just not record anything 220 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,360 it's it's not it's not an event max it's 221 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,360 literally you know i'm saying would you 222 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:35,279 like to come and have a meal with us so 223 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:36,560 it's not you know it's not like 224 00:09:39,190 --> 00:09:37,519 something that people can come and 225 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:39,200 attend and say hi lou are you doing you 226 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:40,240 know it's people sitting there on a 227 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:41,680 table eating 228 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:44,000 so it's not an event 229 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:46,080 i get it okay i get it but uh you know i 230 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:47,440 kind of like if you think how you were 231 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:49,120 in san marino with lou where you had 232 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:51,120 like the daytime hanging out and then 233 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:52,640 you had dinner in the evening we're just 234 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:54,560 doing the dinner party yeah all right 235 00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:55,760 all right and you wouldn't expect people 236 00:09:58,630 --> 00:09:57,200 just you wouldn't expect people to turn 237 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,640 up halfway through your meal and say oh 238 00:10:02,150 --> 00:10:01,120 hi lou it's lovely to see you you know 239 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:02,160 you're just sitting there to have it 240 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,760 have some food and just have a bit of an 241 00:10:08,069 --> 00:10:05,440 informal chat that's all 242 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:08,079 besides enjoying a dinner with lou is is 243 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:11,040 there are no plans to to uh do some 244 00:10:14,389 --> 00:10:13,279 interview after or the day after or 245 00:10:16,310 --> 00:10:14,399 something 246 00:10:17,910 --> 00:10:16,320 no no i think it's we're just going to 247 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:17,920 leave lou to do his own thing whatever 248 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:20,160 it is he's up to like or spending some 249 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:21,680 time over here i don't know if he's got 250 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:23,680 any friends or family with him but it's 251 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:24,880 just a chance for us to kind of say 252 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:27,360 hello quite casually and 253 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:28,720 relax a little bit i think we've all 254 00:10:32,389 --> 00:10:30,240 spoke to him pretty much for the most 255 00:10:34,389 --> 00:10:32,399 part individually or on the record off 256 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:34,399 the record on air off air like like 257 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:36,480 yourself max and it's just nice to get a 258 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:38,640 little bit of down time and not have to 259 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:40,800 be official and you know can i just ask 260 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:42,640 you a question just chat to him like a 261 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:44,880 normal human being like yes so that 262 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:46,800 would 263 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:48,800 oh yeah yeah well it will be showing you 264 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,920 the pictures of the aliens 265 00:11:08,810 --> 00:10:54,000 i think that's after dessert 266 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:12,470 [Laughter] 267 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:22,310 but not physically 268 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:24,399 i i wish we were meeting 269 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:26,480 yeah this weekend but he'll be on the 270 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:28,560 live stream in 271 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:30,560 about four minutes he'll pop in at any 272 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:32,160 any time uh so if you could fill the 273 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:33,680 four minutes 274 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:38,550 so um 275 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,480 what are your your you guys plans for 276 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:42,720 your up and coming podcasts and are you 277 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:44,480 going to cover whatever 278 00:11:49,829 --> 00:11:47,120 is being discussed uh during the dinner 279 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:51,110 so i'll be on 280 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:54,079 with sean rash on tuesday i think it is 281 00:11:58,389 --> 00:11:56,720 the second awesome um and i mean i'll 282 00:11:59,670 --> 00:11:58,399 talk about it then um you know i'll let 283 00:12:03,190 --> 00:11:59,680 you know whether he likes mayo or 284 00:12:06,949 --> 00:12:05,829 right right right well uh talking about 285 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:06,959 sean 286 00:12:11,829 --> 00:12:09,040 that interview with the cia guy that was 287 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:11,839 quite quite an event 288 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:15,839 oh sean rush yeah yeah yeah john ramirez 289 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:18,000 yeah yeah that's right very very good i 290 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:20,160 i enjoyed that that i think that was 291 00:12:22,949 --> 00:12:21,600 actually groundbreaking what do you 292 00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:22,959 think you guys think yeah it was 293 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:25,120 incredible it's one of those interviews 294 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:27,680 it just contains so so much 295 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,600 that i need to sit down and watch her a 296 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:31,360 few more times to make sure i'm getting 297 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,160 everything from it because yeah it was a 298 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:36,480 first blush it was crazy it was a big 299 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:37,600 yeah i'd like 300 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,440 man i'd like to argue that that could be 301 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,600 one of the most important interviews on 302 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:43,920 uap ever i i feel 303 00:12:47,990 --> 00:12:45,440 i don't think people realize how much 304 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:48,000 work sean's putting in recently 305 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:49,519 because he's coming up some really good 306 00:12:52,949 --> 00:12:51,040 stuff even on twitter you know he's 307 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:52,959 going to get a team together in the 308 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:54,399 background to help him out with what 309 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:55,920 he's doing 310 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:58,079 yeah yeah yeah i me myself i took a 311 00:13:02,870 --> 00:13:00,639 little downtime from you know podcasting 312 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:02,880 and stuff but i've been enjoying sean 313 00:13:06,629 --> 00:13:03,920 you know 314 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:06,639 that guy is incredible he just keeps on 315 00:13:10,550 --> 00:13:08,399 going and he gets 316 00:13:12,710 --> 00:13:10,560 more and more really important guests 317 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:12,720 it's uh it's it's quite amazing i'm i'm 318 00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:13,920 really uh 319 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:15,279 excited for him 320 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:16,959 oh he's great and and the paperwork he 321 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:18,959 keeps turning up and you know 322 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:20,800 it's just it's it's phenomenal like it 323 00:13:24,389 --> 00:13:21,920 really is 324 00:13:29,829 --> 00:13:24,399 he could compile it into a book for sure 325 00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:32,230 but um are you guys going out for the 326 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:35,360 night are you gonna drink some beers uh 327 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:36,480 or something yeah well what are you 328 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:37,200 doing 329 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,800 yeah benny are you gonna be drinking 330 00:13:43,269 --> 00:13:40,079 today 331 00:13:45,269 --> 00:13:43,279 uh i'll be drinking some more 332 00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:45,279 we're trying to figure out 333 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:51,110 a couple of glasses this afternoon you 334 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:53,600 know i traveled god knows how many miles 335 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:55,680 around london on the tube today getting 336 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:57,360 to the national archives and back it 337 00:14:01,030 --> 00:13:58,959 makes you need a little 338 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:01,040 a little drink after it's hectic a 339 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:03,519 reward yeah all those dusty old files 340 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:05,040 and fighting out all the information 341 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:06,320 yeah a glass of wine is definitely 342 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:08,720 needed by mid-afternoon so by the way 343 00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:13,600 lou is down for drinks just so you know 344 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:17,839 i've been told what drink bring him 345 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:20,720 no he said he's really a fun guy to hang 346 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:23,519 around with you know it's not just the 347 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:24,880 pentagon guy 348 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:26,800 everyone has been interviewing or on 349 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:29,519 youtube no he's he's a real guy he's a 350 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:32,000 fun dude to hang around with so 351 00:14:36,389 --> 00:14:33,839 i'm kind of jealous you can see that 352 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:36,399 side of them all the time today and like 353 00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:38,079 that that's for me the special thing 354 00:14:42,629 --> 00:14:39,920 it's like um we're going to get to talk 355 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:42,639 about tulu about not uap stuff and i 356 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,560 know that might sound crazy to people 357 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,639 but yeah as a person just like everyone 358 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:48,639 else it'll be nice to hear that side of 359 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:49,600 things 360 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,600 yeah yeah well sometimes you know if you 361 00:15:05,910 --> 00:14:53,760 look at lou i always think of creating 362 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,150 and also he's really short 363 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:24,150 wait 364 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:25,990 i'll send you something separately max 365 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:28,720 okay i'll i'll dm you it's fine 366 00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:31,120 for sure all right right now we've got 367 00:15:35,189 --> 00:15:33,199 plans coming up 368 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:35,199 yeah i've been working on uh on my 369 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,120 documentary 370 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:39,519 i've i've been making a 371 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:41,279 documentary 372 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:44,399 on let's say my podcast timeline the 373 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:46,000 people i've interviewed 374 00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:49,680 and um well it's kind of like a 375 00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:52,639 timeline suspenseful thing with the 180 376 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,079 a day thing up until right now uh and of 377 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:58,800 course san marino was a big uh climax 378 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:00,000 for me 379 00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:01,680 so i'll be covering that but you know 380 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,839 the problem with uh this topic is you 381 00:16:06,389 --> 00:16:05,680 know there's no finish you know it's 382 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,399 just 383 00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:08,399 i i don't know where i should end you 384 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:10,959 know it's uh it just keeps on going 385 00:16:15,590 --> 00:16:13,759 it's like you ever seen zodiac where 386 00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:15,600 like it's yeah yeah incredible film but 387 00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:16,880 because they never caught him it's this 388 00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:19,759 really unsatisfying ending any ufc 389 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:22,639 right now ends that way you know 390 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:23,600 it's 391 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:26,800 there's going to be more and more and 392 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:32,629 sorry no come on 393 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:34,480 yeah so i think you know 394 00:16:38,310 --> 00:16:36,079 i'm just going gonna have to draw a line 395 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:38,320 somewhere you know okay let's stop here 396 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:40,639 and make a maybe make a sequel or have 397 00:16:45,509 --> 00:16:42,959 you guys make a sequel because all of 398 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,519 you have been doing uh incredible work 399 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,839 um you know my hat's off to you guys you 400 00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:49,360 know you've been 401 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:52,000 a major part of disclosure um 402 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:54,240 and uh i'm i'm really jealous i'm not 403 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:57,759 british so i could join you guys 404 00:17:04,230 --> 00:16:58,800 if you 405 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:04,240 ministers to talk about uaps then you 406 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:05,760 can you could be brilliant 407 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:11,829 that's the hardest job yeah 408 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:14,079 yeah well for now i'll be the token 409 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:18,390 you guy 410 00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,679 at the end of your documentary all you 411 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:22,160 need to do is just to be continued 412 00:17:27,350 --> 00:17:25,120 exactly yeah yeah yeah there you go yeah 413 00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:27,360 yeah yeah secret sequels are are usually 414 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:29,840 not that good but uh you know 415 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:32,000 let's give it a shot i don't know 416 00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:34,400 32 was banging so you know the dark 417 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:36,080 knight 418 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,029 by the way 419 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:43,039 have you guys seen squid game i think 420 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:49,430 he said something about squid game and 421 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,280 we turned around and there was this kid 422 00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,600 wearing one of the guard masks from the 423 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,080 from the show and yeah right 424 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:58,240 yeah i think my daughter is going as the 425 00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,360 um 426 00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,120 the animatronic from red light green 427 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:04,000 light for halloween tomorrow uh sunday 428 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:05,600 to a party so it's going to be pretty 429 00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:07,280 creepy 430 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:09,039 yeah that's why 431 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:10,400 she wants me to dress up as one of the 432 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:15,440 guards just don't let it have a gun 433 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:16,640 they were like all the kids are playing 434 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,840 squid games and it's like well unless 435 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:19,679 anyone dies 436 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:21,840 she's not a license 437 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:23,919 okay bring in 438 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:25,840 the man himself the mystic lion 439 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:28,559 traveling through india space just to 440 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:29,919 see us 441 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:32,880 hello how are you guys hey 442 00:18:42,630 --> 00:18:39,909 oh it's good to see you 443 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:42,640 hey max how's it going hi sean how are 444 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,840 you doing man 445 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:45,360 oh my god 446 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:46,480 what do we do 447 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:48,000 i think that's it we just now we sign 448 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:49,600 off right that's 449 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,280 not enough 450 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:53,440 well you actually sean 451 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:55,360 well i was gonna go to the beach and 452 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:56,640 then uh 453 00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,160 some really cool guys got together and 454 00:19:02,470 --> 00:18:59,760 posted some cool pictures and i got all 455 00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:02,480 inspired to jump in and and you know say 456 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,400 hi and then here i am because how do you 457 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:06,320 say no to dan i mean 458 00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:14,789 how about you guys you guys what are you 459 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,240 guys you gonna go to a football game or 460 00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:18,000 something what's going on 461 00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:25,750 max i love you man 462 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,669 there's no football tomorrow no football 463 00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:33,200 there is a rugby game though and but 464 00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:34,559 don't watch it because wales are going 465 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,120 to be transforming 466 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,440 yeah you'll be home by then it'll be fun 467 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240 yeah in into the crying river welsh 468 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:44,480 tears sure i mean if you're gonna cry 469 00:19:54,630 --> 00:19:52,710 i'm holding them in right now 470 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:54,640 luckily i have no i have no allegiance 471 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,240 to any sports team i'll i'll watch 472 00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:57,679 anything and 473 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:01,039 and and i run from the hooligans so 474 00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,549 but yeah sean we're meeting ryan sprague 475 00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:13,280 tonight in an hour or so and uh 476 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,840 obviously congratulations to ryan who uh 477 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,760 we got engaged and just double checked 478 00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,440 nate did post that online and i'm not 479 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:21,039 just saying that to everyone that's good 480 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:22,080 yeah 481 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,440 i was thinking i was thinking the same 482 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:25,600 thing i was like 483 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,440 just messaging them now and then 484 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:29,440 tomorrow we've got lunch with uh your 485 00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:30,799 friend of course 486 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:33,520 so looking forward to to that as well 487 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,480 yeah because i'm hungry so 488 00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:37,919 it'll be a good time make sure he picks 489 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:46,549 shawn says 490 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:49,600 he'll charge 491 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:50,960 just up from the house where we're 492 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:53,600 staying so it's um cigars and comforts 493 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:56,880 comforts yes perfect perfect what a man 494 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:00,400 uh now i'm envious now i'm envious 495 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:02,240 you got time on the plane 496 00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:05,040 you know making 12 hours 497 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:06,640 [Laughter] 498 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:12,549 i wouldn't have a wife anymore um 499 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:16,480 really good party on the other end 500 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,430 we're getting closer 501 00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,710 we'll take you to the club smacks in 502 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:28,000 london 503 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,840 we'll drop you off at the club 504 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:33,360 this would be the this would be a good 505 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:34,450 time actually 506 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,120 [Laughter] 507 00:21:53,090 --> 00:21:41,679 wait we're gonna go by uh 508 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:57,029 [Laughter] 509 00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,480 yeah there's some anonymous building in 510 00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,840 london we're going to stand outside and 511 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,360 hopefully don't get arrested which may 512 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:04,000 or may not have been enough on filming 513 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,280 yeah was it 514 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:07,679 not the main in black 515 00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,000 am i making that up it's a bean arsenal 516 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,240 i'm thinking about smith ignore me sorry 517 00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,480 i'm just i'm not on duty tonight this is 518 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:18,400 i'm not being professional you talking 519 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:25,029 because there's so many always here and 520 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,679 everyone's is busy so i don't usually 521 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,520 when i'm hosting this is vinnie's 522 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,960 mess-up well uh we just hope that 523 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,799 everybody understands that 524 00:22:36,149 --> 00:22:34,559 we're trying to be clear on what we're 525 00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,159 doing this weekend there are no big 526 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,559 secrets or hidden things or agendas or 527 00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:40,799 no events 528 00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,799 if anyone does have questions still and 529 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:44,720 then they're here now ask away in the 530 00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,559 chat yeah you know we'll happily answer 531 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,320 but so some people have asked what lou 532 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,080 is doing and 533 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:51,840 it's not for us to share you know when 534 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,789 is he visiting hogwarts 535 00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:03,669 it is open again now yeah 536 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,159 um i i would say people shouldn't over 537 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,200 inflate their their ideas of what people 538 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,039 do in their regular lives 539 00:23:13,990 --> 00:23:12,240 um 540 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,000 you know and how it uh 541 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,240 how it coincides with their work let me 542 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,240 put it that way um 543 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:19,840 there are no secrets surrounding this 544 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:21,679 like you know we didn't plan this just 545 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,799 because things look smooth and 546 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:24,240 professional with some people doesn't 547 00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,360 mean that there's 548 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:27,039 that there's something going on it means 549 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,720 you may have actually found 550 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:30,159 professionals to work with and i was 551 00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,760 going to bring that up because you guys 552 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:32,559 have 553 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:36,880 all of the same challenges 554 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,640 that we've gone through over here and um 555 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:42,880 we kind of jokingly me and 556 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,440 and jake and the guys we jokingly not 557 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:47,200 jokingly actually really seriously think 558 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,600 of you guys as like sky fort east 559 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,799 because 560 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:52,559 you guys are there doing what you're 561 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,520 doing 562 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,120 with the tools that you have and the 563 00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:57,360 relationships that you've built and and 564 00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:59,200 the the relationships that you've 565 00:24:01,590 --> 00:24:00,320 overcome 566 00:24:03,269 --> 00:24:01,600 i mean because i know what it's like to 567 00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,279 get a room full of people together with 568 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,679 differing ideas and and i i don't mean 569 00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,600 to say agendas but we all have internal 570 00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,279 agendas we all want to see something out 571 00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,799 of this that might be a little bit 572 00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,799 different than the other person and to 573 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,799 come together and to focus on on a 574 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,120 mission and a goal together to coalesce 575 00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:18,799 that together it's one of the most 576 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,279 challenging things dare i say a group of 577 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,320 men can do these days um 578 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,600 and not not to exclude anyone i'm just 579 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:30,080 saying that i'm i'm i'm not pounding my 580 00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,919 chest but i'm proud to be amongst a 581 00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:33,200 group of men who are who are as 582 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,799 heartfelt mature 583 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,039 intelligent and professional as you guys 584 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:38,880 are i'd love to see us diversify of 585 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:41,440 course we're we're way too white dude 586 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:43,840 but um 587 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:45,440 but i got i gotta say that it's it's 588 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:47,050 really i'm jewish 589 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,960 [Laughter] 590 00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:52,720 you you've proved the point that you 591 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,000 approved a stereotypical point 592 00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:57,600 the jewish guy will always tell you 593 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,120 exactly how he feels 594 00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:03,440 i'm kyle 595 00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:09,590 because people don't see 596 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,039 um 597 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,720 that we're posting results of what we're 598 00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,640 doing all the time people think that 599 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:15,840 there's some 600 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:18,159 secret behind it all but there isn't you 601 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,440 know we've 602 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,320 we've got families we've got jobs we try 603 00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,799 and do this when we can and if we can i 604 00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,919 mean 605 00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,360 this is the first time we've all been in 606 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:29,440 the same room yeah for 607 00:25:32,470 --> 00:25:30,320 you know 608 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,480 yeah i haven't stopped poking these guys 609 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:33,840 randomly 610 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:39,669 they're actually here it's quite done 611 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:41,840 you sleep that's yeah that's the weird 612 00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,960 thing you wake up in the middle of life 613 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:44,480 he's like pull me away little company 614 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,290 said he's still awake 615 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:47,679 [Laughter] 616 00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:49,600 i know how that feels it's a really good 617 00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,279 couple of days just to 618 00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:53,840 you know bond 619 00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:55,919 yeah in the same room in this rather 620 00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,480 than being on cyberspace and you can't 621 00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:00,000 talk to people properly if you're doing 622 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,679 it across skype or you're doing it 623 00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,440 across text messaging you've got to be 624 00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:05,039 able to see people to talk to them to 625 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,799 see how they react in the moment 626 00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:08,880 otherwise it just doesn't work sean 627 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,950 you know there's more to humanity than 628 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,200 voice and just seeing there's there's a 629 00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,559 depth of field we've got all of our 630 00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,559 other senses we we communicate on a lot 631 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:22,159 of different levels together and it's 632 00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,520 it's not until you get in the same room 633 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:25,279 that you you know that you're sure 634 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,360 you know actually sometimes when you're 635 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,799 not actually saying anything it's the 636 00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,480 silences as well that can speak just as 637 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:32,480 much as what you say 638 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,240 we should also point out we do have one 639 00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,400 missing member who's here we just 640 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:38,400 afs and identified andreas freeman's 641 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,760 style um he's he's a lynchpin but he's a 642 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:43,679 social media linchpin and so he likes to 643 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,760 stay kind of off camera and behind 644 00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:47,039 things so 645 00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:48,799 you know he's he's everything you've 646 00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:51,279 just said about us and thank you so much 647 00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:52,559 um 648 00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:54,000 it applies to him too and i just want to 649 00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,830 yeah it's not just like the six 650 00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,440 members it's like everybody that we 651 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:02,960 communicate with it's everybody we 652 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,240 interact with as well outside of outside 653 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,840 of it yes 654 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,279 you know everybody helps in their own 655 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:11,200 way and everybody 656 00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,440 is welcome that's the thing 657 00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:15,039 can i ask a lot 658 00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:16,880 what did you do last week because we 659 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:20,559 don't really share what we actually do 660 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:22,480 we sent a whole bunch of things out last 661 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,440 week oh well um just to update people i 662 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,440 forgot about that um but yes but this 663 00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,799 one yeah this is the kind of this is the 664 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:30,559 work we're constantly just don't talk 665 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:33,440 about yeah i mean last week we sent off 666 00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,279 a load of letters to members of the 667 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,600 house of lords members of the defense 668 00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,960 select committee 669 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,279 members of the intelligence committee in 670 00:27:44,870 --> 00:27:43,360 this country prince william prince 671 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:44,880 charles 672 00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,600 um astronomy general here the the royal 673 00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,159 astronomer um 674 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:51,840 admiral of the fleet 675 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,200 um head of the space agency in the uk 676 00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,799 you know we sent out all these letters 677 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:59,120 saying this is what we're doing we want 678 00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,240 to get 679 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:02,799 information to you if you are willing to 680 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,320 have that information brought to you 681 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,080 and 682 00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,080 we'll see where that goes it's very much 683 00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:11,919 like what we do over here and i i think 684 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,000 that if people understood more 685 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,320 that we are we're a network now in in 686 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,240 some places we've folks have names 687 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,720 themselves or formed an llc 688 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,480 but the fact is is we're just an 689 00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:24,159 extensive network of people who are 690 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:26,559 trying to get more people to understand 691 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,240 that this should be looked at and we 692 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,840 want the right people to look at it and 693 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,440 in most cases 694 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:33,760 um hollywood or business would say 695 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:36,880 you're giving away your ip every day 696 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:39,520 every day freely because because it's 697 00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,320 not my ip it's information and it's data 698 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:45,120 and it's it's the conclusions are my ip 699 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:47,279 those those are my personal ideas and i 700 00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,960 guard those because those we all have to 701 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:50,559 come to those together once we have the 702 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,840 same data 703 00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:52,880 but 704 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,279 it's it really is about this network of 705 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,279 people and there's a hundred people that 706 00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,520 should be on this call that can't be 707 00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,520 you know there are all of our friends 708 00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,520 all of our trusted you know folks all 709 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,360 the people we go to for advice or that 710 00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,240 help us with information and it and it's 711 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:10,000 i wish people understood that more this 712 00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:13,360 isn't a club it's not a click it's we 713 00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:14,960 want more people we want to fill a 714 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:16,559 stadium of people with the same 715 00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:18,480 information yeah 716 00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:20,559 sean i have a question sean how how is 717 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,520 uh skyford going right now how uh 718 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:25,279 what's developing 719 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,440 well it's going great it's going great 720 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:29,120 everything is outstanding because we 721 00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:30,960 haven't and i'm not judging people i 722 00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:32,399 don't want people to think i'm swinging 723 00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:35,360 some kind of judgment hammer here but we 724 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:38,159 haven't set financial goals 725 00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,000 as our markers we're our analytics our 726 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,399 our benchmarks for success are different 727 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,320 we are self-funded i'm i'm still a 728 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,720 pensioner as i've said i've turned down 729 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,320 hosting jobs 730 00:29:54,149 --> 00:29:52,640 hollywood movies don't get me wrong man 731 00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:54,159 that stuff would be fun that would be 732 00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:01,110 my daughter calls me jason mimosa she's 733 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:02,000 like 734 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:09,830 but i i think you get it i don't want i 735 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,279 don't want to hug hug the mic it's 736 00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:14,880 it's a lot of people 737 00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,520 i will dive also on wednesday um before 738 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:20,880 before i came down here to meet all 739 00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:23,919 these guys i met up with members of the 740 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:25,840 swansea ufo network 741 00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,480 who are doing some incredible work um on 742 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:31,279 ufo cases in wales 743 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:32,799 and they are getting together witness 744 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,520 statements eyewitness reports and as 745 00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,360 much information as they can get because 746 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:39,679 wales is a hot spot of your activity but 747 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,559 not many people realize it 748 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,840 and that's part of the reason why i was 749 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,760 at the national archives today is to 750 00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:47,200 help them out 751 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,919 and 752 00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,240 do my own research on what i'm 753 00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,080 interested in so 754 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:54,159 you know there's all these little groups 755 00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,200 which 756 00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:57,279 you know when you do contact them and 757 00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:58,559 when you do 758 00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,159 actually work together and work out a 759 00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:02,240 plan you know you can get 760 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,279 some very 761 00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,799 you can get 762 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,440 good teamwork going i guess 763 00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,279 and that brings all the information out 764 00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,799 to everybody else 765 00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,519 yeah i think we're all wary of this wary 766 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:17,840 i should say of this subject because as 767 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,679 you know as 768 00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:22,640 where we work in it is very serious 769 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,880 and it's i'm glad we started out joking 770 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,399 and poking and everything at first 771 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,000 because it cuts through the nonsense 772 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:30,240 before you get to just a deadly serious 773 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:31,440 topic 774 00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,200 and it doesn't matter what piece of it 775 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:35,200 you pull out of it we don't deal with 776 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,799 any of the jokey stuff 777 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:37,760 and so 778 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,840 at the end of the day we might get a lot 779 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,840 of questions from people that we can't 780 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,880 answer 781 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:44,399 and we don't even get to spend a lot of 782 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:45,600 brain space 783 00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:47,760 working on that ourselves because it's 784 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,399 those are rabbit holes the the unknown 785 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,960 portion of this remains unknown 786 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,440 and i just think that that managing that 787 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:57,120 stress and managing the relationships 788 00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:58,399 that come along with it are such a 789 00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:01,760 challenge for all of us um i i point no 790 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,960 finger at anyone um we've i think all of 791 00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:06,799 us in our personal lives and we've seen 792 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:09,760 in within our greater community the ups 793 00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:12,480 and downs of the frustrations that come 794 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,279 with the unknown and with the ideas that 795 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,000 other people know things that you feel 796 00:32:22,630 --> 00:32:20,559 are germane to your own existence 797 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,640 and that's possibly the hardest subject 798 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:24,960 you can deal with and you can't find 799 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,960 anyone that you whose neck you can ring 800 00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:28,640 to get the answers from 801 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,509 it's gonna take more it's gonna and i'm 802 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,760 sorry that people are not seeing what 803 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:37,840 they thought was gonna be big hollywood 804 00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:40,480 front lawn disclosure and lights i'm not 805 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,159 interested in any of that i'm interested 806 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,840 in the ground truth and if i think if 807 00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:44,960 there was a 808 00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:48,399 pane of glass to break and a note to 809 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,159 read behind it we would have by now yeah 810 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,480 can i just say something please i think 811 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,480 like you guys what you're doing and what 812 00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,080 you've been doing and like what sky 813 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,320 fort's going to do if you did get that 814 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:03,360 white house lawn landing tomorrow it 815 00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,640 wouldn't stop what you're doing though 816 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,159 with it it wouldn't change what you guys 817 00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:07,679 are doing so that that work would still 818 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,039 need to be done it's not just like oh 819 00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,000 well there's there's an alien so let's 820 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:14,640 that's an excellent that's an excellent 821 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:17,200 segue into we need to start looking at 822 00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:18,480 what's next 823 00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,440 because 824 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:20,960 as as we all start putting the 825 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,960 possibilities of what this could be on 826 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,000 the table based on the evidence we have 827 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,080 there are other a lot more people need 828 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,159 to be involved we may we need to start 829 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,640 considering diplomacy because if this 830 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,320 isn't us 831 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,080 this can't be owned wholly by the 832 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,000 military industrial complex in our 833 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:40,399 defense industry and we can't paint it 834 00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:43,120 solely as a boogeyman or or allow anyone 835 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,519 to do that we have to treat it as an 836 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,600 unknown protect ourselves and then say 837 00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,200 hey who are you 838 00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:51,600 and and see what comes back 839 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,080 sean i have a request because on that 840 00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,480 note uh a friend of mine who's doing 841 00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,120 very divine work here in holland 842 00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:01,519 has a very important meeting with the 843 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,480 dutch 844 00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:04,640 military 845 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:09,839 and uh he is 846 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:13,599 seeking uh foreign military men 847 00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:18,399 uh to sign a pamphlet uh to show 848 00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,119 the dutch military uh you know this is a 849 00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:22,879 real thing and they should look into it 850 00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,919 and i can tell you uh they are curious 851 00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:27,839 they're very uh curious you know what 852 00:34:32,550 --> 00:34:29,520 what he's gonna come up with 853 00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,560 and uh he's been asking me you know to 854 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:34,960 actually approach guys like you sean 855 00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,000 uh you know to support him uh you know 856 00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,800 creating awareness uh within the dutch 857 00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:41,839 dod 858 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:44,240 okay i'd be more than happy to help with 859 00:34:47,829 --> 00:34:45,679 that that's something that that's right 860 00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:47,839 in the lane that we're in because we 861 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,839 have the phone numbers the relationships 862 00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:51,599 and the and the ability to communicate 863 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,879 to those folks 864 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,240 um 865 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,599 let me let me see what i can do i'll 866 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,599 talk to my folks we'll see you know and 867 00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,280 the people i work with and my friends 868 00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:02,160 and and see who's out there thank you um 869 00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,839 some a lot of the folks who are on 870 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:06,000 active duty maybe uh 871 00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,560 those folks may not be able to 872 00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:10,560 as easily communicate what they want to 873 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:12,560 but i'll see if there's a means for us 874 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,480 to uh utilizing a anonymous source 875 00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:17,760 um 876 00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,000 protocol such as the associated press 877 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:21,920 you know that people would be happy with 878 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:22,640 to 879 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:27,119 um i'll make sure that we don't provide 880 00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,920 anything that that can't be backed up so 881 00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,720 yeah 882 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,960 how quickly it's what's their time frame 883 00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,839 on that 884 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,079 uh actually it's the 15th of november he 885 00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:38,160 has a a very important meeting with a 886 00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:41,520 very high high ranking officer in uh 887 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,920 in the netherlands yeah okay i confess 888 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,359 that i may have something like that in 889 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,760 my inbox so i'll i'll sift through and 890 00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,280 push it to the top 891 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:50,880 that's awesome 892 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,680 hit me up directly if uh if you need 893 00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:55,040 action on it you haven't heard from me 894 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:56,320 because i do get lost in the sauce 895 00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,359 sometimes 896 00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,079 for sure thank you man thank you awesome 897 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:01,520 that's a good example of the work being 898 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:08,550 we just dropped right into zoom mode and 899 00:36:17,030 --> 00:36:15,349 we're going to have to wrap up here soon 900 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:17,040 to go meet ryan but i just wanted to 901 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,480 roll through some of these and just say 902 00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:20,800 thank you to chris thank you chris thank 903 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,320 you sarah lara nathan 904 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,640 nathan as well um 905 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,320 we will buy a nice round and we will 906 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,960 make sure we buy ryan and his his 907 00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,839 fiancee a nice celebratory drink yes 908 00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:35,359 thank you so much thank you everyone 909 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,880 cheers everybody thank you 910 00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,400 congratulations all around all of you 911 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,000 guys for everything you've done for the 912 00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,520 friendships you've built for thank you 913 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,599 for inviting us in and uh have a great 914 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:45,599 time tonight give my guy a hug 915 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:50,390 thank you guys 916 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,000 everyone that was 917 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:54,240 you know we tried to be as honest and 918 00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,440 open as we can about all the 919 00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,040 conspiracies that were built up about 920 00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,800 our innocent little journey down here to 921 00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:01,200 london so i hope we've put everything at 922 00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:02,240 ease 923 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:05,040 so yeah thank you everyone and hopefully 924 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,400 we will be doing something i'm gonna 925 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,040 get something done that we can raffle 926 00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:12,960 closer to christmas and hopefully raise 927 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,920 a little money for for some charities so 928 00:37:18,870 --> 00:37:17,280 let me know what charities you think 929 00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,880 you'd like to support i'm thinking you 930 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:20,320 know children's hospice that kind of 931 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,359 thing but 932 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,440 we'll raise some money let's go show the 933 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:25,680 people awesome 934 00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,000 thank you dan thank you vinnie thank you 935 00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:30,160 great thank you hi guys a quick thank 936 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:31,359 you 937 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,790 have a good night max super happy fun 938 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,400 time yeah max you're not going to